How to bend a 3-point and a 4-point saddle over an obstruction
For a 3-point saddle, bend the centre at 45° and each side at 22.5°, with the side marks placed the obstruction height × 2.613 from the centre mark (7 27/32" for a 3" pipe). A 4-point saddle is two offsets over a flat top: height × multiplier between the marks of each one. PipeMaster's 3-Point Saddle and 4-Point Saddle calculators (Pro) give those distances — sight down the pipe before every centre bend, since the math won't catch a twisted saddle.
3-point or 4-point: which saddle?
A 3-point saddle crosses something round or narrow, such as another pipe: one centre bend and two half-angle bends on either side. A 4-point saddle crosses something wide and flat, such as a duct or a beam: two offsets with a straight section on top that spans the obstruction.
The 3 point saddle formula
- Side angle = centre angle ÷ 2.
- Side mark distance = obstruction height ÷ sin(side angle), measured from the centre mark to each side mark.
- With a 45° centre and 22.5° sides that is height × 2.613.
Plenty of field charts round the 45° multiplier to 2.5 — 7 1/2" instead of 7 27/32" for a 3" obstruction. PipeMaster sticks to the plain geometry. Bend a test saddle with both numbers once and keep whichever one actually lands on your obstruction with your own bender.
Steps in PipeMaster
- Open 3-Point Saddle under Pro Calculators.
- Enter the Obstruction Height.
- Tap the centre bend angle in the row of angles; 45.0° is the usual choice.
- Read Side Angle and Side Bend Distance under Result.
- Mark the centre where the conduit crosses the middle of the obstruction, adjusted for shrink by your usual method, then mark each side at the side bend distance.
| Obstruction Height | Angle | Side Angle | Side Bend Distance |
|---|---|---|---|
| 3" | 45° | 22.5° | 7 27/32" |
| 2" | 45° | 22.5° | 5 7/32" |
| 50 mm | 45° | 22.5° | 131 mm |
| 3" | 60° | 30.0° | 6" |
PipeMaster does not give shrink for a 3-point saddle or move the centre mark for it. A figure often taught for a 45° centre is 3/16" of shrink per inch of obstruction height; check it against a test bend.
The 4 point saddle bend formula
Each side of a 4-point saddle is an offset of the obstruction height, so the distance between the outer and inner mark of each offset is height ÷ sin(angle), the normal offset multiplier. The flat section between the two offsets has to be at least as long as the obstruction is wide.
Steps in PipeMaster
- Open 4-Point Saddle under Pro Calculators.
- Enter the Obstruction Height and tap the angle for both offsets in the row of angles.
- Enter the Obstruction Top Width.
- Read Outer-to-Inner Distance; the top width is repeated under Result so you have both numbers on one screen.
- Lay out the first offset, the flat section over the top width plus any clearance, then the second offset, following the method you were taught.
| Obstruction Height | Angle | Obstruction Top Width | Outer-to-Inner Distance |
|---|---|---|---|
| 4" | 30° | 8" | 8" |
| 4" | 45° | 8" | 5 21/32" |
The app does not lay out all four marks and does not work out shrink for a 4-point saddle; the shrink of each offset is height × shrink per inch (0.268 at 30°) from the Bend Reference card.
Common mistakes
- Letting the conduit rotate between bends: all bends of a saddle must stay in one plane or it dog-legs.
- Forgetting shrink, so the saddle lands off-centre on the obstruction.
- Choosing steep angles on a long run: a 4-point saddle at 45° adds 180° of bends, half of the 360° allowed between pull points.
- Bending the centre of a 3-point saddle in the wrong direction; sight down the pipe before each bend.
Questions and answers
What is the 3 point saddle multiplier at 45 degrees?
How do you bend a saddle in EMT with PipeMaster?
Can I use any angle for a saddle?
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